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  • From: Scott Koranda <>
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  • Subject: Re: [Assurance] Silver registration records and DOB
  • Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 13:18:21 -0500

Hi,

Thanks for the quick responses!

This one is the one I expected but I am grateful for the perspective
of campus IT folks.

Cheers,

Scott

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Jim Green
<>
wrote:
> Hi, Scott,
>
> I believe this language is probably based on NIST 800-63, for example,
> here's some language from page 31 of the version I have handy, which I'm
> pretty sure is current:
>
> "At Level 2 and higher, the Applicant supplies his or her full legal name,
> an address of record, and date of birth, and may, subject to the policy of
> the RA or CSP, also supply other PII."
>
> Since it seems InCommon is trying to be compatible with federal standards
> (e.g. FICAM), in some cases the rationale behind the federal standards is
> not explicitly explained anywhere that I've been able to find. In this case
> it appears to have to do with the ability to disambiguate multiple similar
> records and prevent errors of that nature.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>>
>> [
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Koranda
>> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 2:09 PM
>> To:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Assurance] Silver registration records and DOB
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > I can tell you from a record duplication prevention point of view
>> that
>> > date of birth is the most statistically significant of the data
>> > elements listed below to correctly match a record to the right
>> person.
>>
>> Ah. I see.
>>
>> We have such a small community (about 1000) that matching records to
>> the right person via a DOB is not something we would think of straight
>> off.
>>
>> Since we do not collect DOB and have no reason to collect DOB recording
>> it at the time of identity proofing does not make sense for us.
>>
>> > don't often respond the
>> > this list, but this is one thing I do know! :)
>>
>> Thanks for sharing! Since I do not have a background in campus IT
>> sharing these types of insights are most helpful.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From:
>> >
>> > [mailto:]
>> > On Behalf Of Scott Koranda
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:53 PM To:
>> >
>> > Subject: [Assurance] Silver registration
>> > records and DOB
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > 4.2.2.3 of the IAP version 1.1 "REGISTRATION RECORDS"
>> > includes
>> >
>> > "The record of the facts of registration shall include: - Identity
>> > proofing document types and issuers; - Full name as shown on the
>> > documents; - Date of birth; - Current Address of Record"
>> >
>> > What is the rationale for including date of birth?
>> >
>> > I ask because, as a science virtual organization (LIGO) and not a
>> > campus, we have no pre-existing relationship with our users that
>> > includes the need for a date of birth.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Scott
>



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