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- From: "Rank, Mark" <>
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- Subject: RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63
- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:37:14 +0000
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Mark Rank
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From: [] on behalf of Ann West []
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 7:59 AM To: Subject: Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63 Just want to make sure we're not over thinking this…We are bound by InCommon's specs, not the US Government's. Looking to other docs for ideas on how to address the gaps is certainly appropriate, but we have to be careful not to conflate those with ours.
Kantara's specs, another FICAM-approved trust framework, might be just as useful, for instance.
Ann
From: <Capehart>, Jeffrey D <>
Reply-To: "" <> Date: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:19 PM To: "" <> Subject: RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63 Yes, 800-63 refers to 53 for the controls/assurance, which then refers back to 63 for the technical guidance. Seems like a circular reference.
However, my main point was that the 800-63 needed controls for LOA[1,2,3,4] *SHOULD* be tested/evaluated under an 800-53 (FISMA) audit. And, I was able to pin-point the specific ones. In 53, the controls are somewhat generalized, so that’s why the specific guidance refers back to 63.
At the end of the day, the Federal agencies all turn on the FIPS mode and I suspect any technology using Windows probably also requires the FIPS mode be turned on. Bitlocker is always at least AES-128 CBC. In FIPS mode, it goes to AES-256. In non-FIPS mode, it uses an “Elephant diffuser” but the underlying data is still AES-CBC-128.
I also found a third-party product which tunnels authentication over a TLS encrypted channel using an agent on clients and the AD domain controller. The vendor says that just a few of their more than 60 federal customers are NIH, NASA, NIST, NOAA, DOD, US ARMY, Dept. of Commerce, Dept. of Energy…
Jeff From:
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On Behalf Of David Walker
Oh. I read that differently. I think it's a statement of requirements beyond those mentioned explicitly in 800-63, not that 800-53 (a security standard) could be used
in lieu of 800-63. The statement is a little redundant, anyway, as federal agencies are already bound by 800-53. David,
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- [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Capehart,Jeffrey D, 04/24/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Brian Arkills, 04/25/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Eric Goodman, 04/26/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Capehart,Jeffrey D, 04/25/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Capehart,Jeffrey D, 04/25/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Ann West, 04/29/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Rank, Mark, 04/29/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Eric Goodman, 04/29/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Rank, Mark, 04/30/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Ann West, 04/30/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Eric Goodman, 04/30/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/30/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Capehart,Jeffrey D, 04/30/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/30/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Rank, Mark, 04/29/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Ann West, 04/29/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Capehart,Jeffrey D, 04/25/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
- RE: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, Brian Arkills, 04/25/2013
- Re: [AD-Assurance] Applying FISMA to 800-63, David Walker, 04/25/2013
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