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Re: [Per-Entity] Some thoughts about availability and scalability


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  • From: Tom Scavo <>
  • To: Chris Phillips <>
  • Cc: Per-Entity Metadata Working Group <>
  • Subject: Re: [Per-Entity] Some thoughts about availability and scalability
  • Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 12:30:11 -0400

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Chris Phillips
<>
wrote:
>
> Can someone weigh in on the qualities REQUIRED of an MDQ consumer and the
> place on the wiki they exist?
> E.g. 'Consumer MUST be able to retrieve MDQ ack/nack of a record in X ms'

AFAIK, no one has voiced such a requirement. In any case, I'm not sure
how valuable such a requirement would be. It's unrealistic to think a
server will never fail. The question is: what happens when it *does*
fail.

> 'Consumer MUST respect validUntil timestamp and cache MDQ response until
> then'

No, you're confusing validUntil with cacheDuration, but in any case
this is purely a client-side issue. Both Shibboleth and SSP respect
these XML attributes AFAIK. Others clients may be lacking, I don't
know.

Btw, InCommon metadata has never had an explicit cacheDuration value.
Should the MDQ server include one? A realistic value would be 24
hours. Not sure if this is useful or not.

> Federation operators
> around the globe operate this now and MDQ 'answers' are not very different
> from serving up a metadata aggregate at all — are they?

I claim they are definitely different (but at least Scott thinks otherwise).

Tom



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