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  • From: "Hamparian,Don" <>
  • To: "David Kennedy" <>
  • Cc: <>, "Shibboleth" <>, "Zavar,Jason" <>, "Dale,Andy" <>, <>
  • Subject: RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration
  • Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:44:38 -0400

Hi Dave and all, yes, I can make the October 9th date/time and would be glad to discuss what OCLC is doing  WRT with Shibboleth.

 

Talk to you then,

Don

 

Don Hamparian

Manager OCLC Grid Portfolio

OCLC

614.764.6017 (voice)

614.975.5750 (mobile)

IM, IP Phone (Skype) donhamp2

ICQ: 412-913-446

http://worldcat.org/devnet

 

 

 

From: David Kennedy [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 1:51 PM
To: David Kennedy
Cc: Hamparian,Don; ; Shibboleth; Zavar,Jason; Dale,Andy;
Subject: RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration

 

Hi Don,

I just got off of the phone with our InCommon library services collaboration group.  There is a lot of interest within our group in speaking with you.  As I mentioned before, Oct 9th, 1PM EDT is a scheduled call that our group is available.  If you would like to meet sooner, that would be great too.

If you have another time in mind that would work for you, can you send it back to this list, or specifically Dean Woodbeck?  I will be offline for a few days, and don't want to hold up the process of scheduling a meeting.

Hope to talk to you soon

Dave

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David Kennedy
Application Developer
Perkins Library, Duke University
(919) 613-6831


From:

David Kennedy/Libraries/Provost/Academic/Univ/Duke

To:

"Hamparian,Don" <>

Cc:

, "Shibboleth" <>, "Zavar,Jason" <>

Date:

09/10/2009 05:29 PM

Subject:

RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration

 




Don, I am personally out the week after the 18th.  And then our group won't have another open call until Oct 9th.  If you would like to talk sooner than that, maybe you could propose some times outside of our normal call schedule and we could work from there?

Dave

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David Kennedy
Application Developer
Perkins Library, Duke University
(919) 613-6831



From:

"Hamparian,Don" <>

To:

"David Kennedy" <>

Cc:

<>, "Shibboleth" <>, "Zavar,Jason" <>

Date:

09/10/2009 04:37 PM

Subject:

RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration

 





Hello Dave, can we go for the week after the 18th by any chance?
 
From: David Kennedy []
Sent:
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:35 AM
To:
Hamparian,Don
Cc:
; Shibboleth; Zavar,Jason
Subject:
RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration

 
Don,

Thank you for requesting to talk with our group and allow us some input into your planning.  Can we have a conference call on Sep 18th, 1PM EDT?  Our group already has a scheduled call at that time and would be pleased if you were available to join the call.


Thanks

Dave


-----
David Kennedy
Application Developer
Perkins Library, Duke University
(919) 613-6831

From:

"Hamparian,Don" <>

To:

"David Kennedy" <>, "Zavar,Jason" <>

Cc:

<>, "Shibboleth" <>

Date:

09/04/2009 05:39 PM

Subject:

RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration


 

 






Hi Dave, see below. I manage the group responsible for product-side planning for IDM.

 
Don Hamparian

Manager OCLC Grid Portfolio

OCLC


614.764.6017 (voice)

614.975.5750 (mobile)

IM, IP Phone (Skype) donhamp2

ICQ: 412-913-446

http://worldcat.org/devnet
 
 
 
>From: David Kennedy [
]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:02 PM
> To: Zavar,Jason
> Cc: ; Shibboleth
> Subject: RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration

 
> I reached out to my colleague, Andy Dale and he provided some
>
> additional comments. See below.

>
>  
>
> >> Is the urn:mace:dir:entitlement:common-lib-terms  an attribute
>
> value that OCLC would consider accepting?

>
> Absolutely YES – We need to collect more information like this email
>
> and understand what our members and customers need. We will go to
>
> considerable effort to reduce barriers to access library resources
>
> and services. If this is a barrier; we will remove it.

>
>
Jason,
>
>
Can you provide an update on the above?  Is there a timeline for FirstSearch to use the standard common-lib-terms eduPersonEntitlement value instead of the OCLC-specific value?
>
>
Thanks
>
Dave
>
 
Dave, we are implementing a new way to access licensed content currently available via FirstSearch. It will be part of the worldcat.org service and more specifically built on that technology platform (which is a different one then First Search).

 
We aren’t planning to make this change for First Search. However, for the worldcat.org-based platform, we are implementing a replacement Service Provider facility.  We are now just discussing this very topic – how to take inbound attributes and map them to our list of institutions.  If you don’t mind, I’d like to discuss this with you in some more detail. Would you be interested in a conference call within the next few weeks?

 
What we do know is the way we do this for First Search is not the way we want to do it in our new facility :-).



>
>
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>
David Kennedy
>
Application Developer
>
Perkins Library, Duke University
>
(919) 613-6831
>


[snip…]

 
>
>
>
> In response to your question, direct linking to resources are
>
> basically persistent URLs directly to resources, as opposed to URLs
>
> just to search screens.  Our question is whether or not there is a
>
> way to craft persistent URLs to resources, such that the URLs to
>
> these resources are WAYFless.
>
> So, for instance, if you had a resource that lived at:
>
>
http://firstsearch.oclc.org/resources/foo
>
> and you had a WAYFless URL syntax that made use of a
>
> SessionInitiator that lived at:
>
>
https://firstsearch.oclc.org/Shib/SessionInitiator
>
> then direct Shibboleth-authenticated links to resources would look
>
> something like this for duke:
>
>
https://firstsearch.oclc.org/Shib/SessionInitiator?
>
> providerId=urn:mace:incommon:duke.edu&target=http://
>
> firstsearch.oclc.org/resources/foo
>
>


We have a plan for WAYFless URLs we are discussing internally. I’d like to discuss that with you during our conference call if that works for you.

 
>
> This feature is very desirable for libraries, because we have the
>
> ability to craft these URLs from our own systems (link resolvers,
>
> course home pages, metalib, etc) (by sending them through ezproxy
>
> and using SPUEdit directives) in order that end users can experience
>
> authenticated access directly to resources.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----





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