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- From: David Kennedy <>
- To: "Zavar,Jason" <>
- Cc: , "Shibboleth" <>
- Subject: Re: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration
- Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:55:37 -0400
Jason,
Thank you for your response. I have a follow-up question for you, and will try to shed some light on your question.
Have you received any feedback on your use of eduPersonEntitlement? The reason I am asking is that, in Duke's case, our OIT runs our Shibboleth Identity Provider. And they don't necessarily want to be configuring different values for a particular attribute for different service providers. They currently make their policies across the InCommon Federation as a single attribute release policy. So, they would like one policy that appropriately releases eduPersonEntitlement with the common-lib-terms attribute to all InCommon service providers. I don't know, but imagine other institutions identity providers would be pretty much in the same boat on this. Is the urn:mace:dir:entitlement:common-lib-terms an attribute value that OCLC would consider accepting?
In response to your question, direct linking to resources are basically persistent URLs directly to resources, as opposed to URLs just to search screens. Our question is whether or not there is a way to craft persistent URLs to resources, such that the URLs to these resources are WAYFless.
So, for instance, if you had a resource that lived at:
http://firstsearch.oclc.org/resources/foo
and you had a WAYFless URL syntax that made use of a SessionInitiator that lived at:
https://firstsearch.oclc.org/Shib/SessionInitiator
then direct Shibboleth-authenticated links to resources would look something like this for duke:
https://firstsearch.oclc.org/Shib/SessionInitiator?providerId=urn:mace:incommon:duke.edu&target=http://firstsearch.oclc.org/resources/foo
This feature is very desirable for libraries, because we have the ability to craft these URLs from our own systems (link resolvers, course home pages, metalib, etc) (by sending them through ezproxy and using SPUEdit directives) in order that end users can experience authenticated access directly to resources.
Dave
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David Kennedy
Systems Programmer
Perkins Library, Duke University
(919) 613-6831
"Zavar,Jason"
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07/17/2009 10:08 AM |
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David,
Sorry for my delay in responding. Please see the responses from OCLC below.
1. What are the minimum attributes you require from an Identity Provider for basic Shibboleth authentication?
OCLC requires the eduPersonEntitlement attribute to specify which FirstSearch authorization to use. The entitlement string value to configure is urn:mace:oclc.org:FirstSearchAuthorziation
2. What additional services, if any, do you provide through Shibboleth beyond basic login, for example, personalization. If you do provide additional services, what is required to enable them?
Just authentication.
3. Do you support "WAYFless" access, that is, access that does not require a user to identify where they are from in order to reach his or her local authentication system?
No, but we have had multiple libraries request a WAYFless URL. I am trying to obtain a status as to when this feature may be supported.
4. Do you support direct Shibboleth-authenticated links to resources?
I am still trying find out this information. Could you please clarify what is meant by this question?
5. Who should libraries contact if they want to set up Shibboleth access to your site or if they have questions or problems?
Setup –
Support –
Technical resources will be consulted as necessary.
Jason Zavar
Product Manager, EZproxy
OCLC, Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
6565 Kilgour Place -- MC431
Dublin, Ohio 43017
800-848-5878 ext. 5195
From: David Kennedy [mailto:]
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:34 AM
To: Hamparian,Don; Zavar,Jason; Shibboleth
Cc:
Subject: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration
Don, Jason, et al.
I am writing you on behalf of the InCommon Library Services Collaboration.
We represent a group of research libraries who are working to expand the use of Shibboleth among members of the InCommon federation. As part of that effort, we are gathering information from vendors about how they have implemented Shibboleth. By making this information more accessible, we hope to make it easier for libraries to use the technology. We also would like to help develop common practices among vendors that would simplify the implementation process for everyone involved and make Shibboleth an attractive option for users.
We think that expanding the use of Shibboleth will help you in various ways:
1. Provide a more secure means of access than IP authentication.
2. Provide better tools for identifying who is responsible when breaches occur.
3. Make it possible for users to take advantage of personalized features on a site without requiring them to open a local account maintained by the vendor.
4. Help to start moving away from IP-based authentication and the overhead it requires.
We ask that you answer the following questions, as they relate to your products and services:
1. What are the minimum attributes you require from an Identity Provider for basic Shibboleth authentication?
2. What additional services, if any, do you provide through Shibboleth beyond basic login, for example, personalization. If you do provide additional services, what is required to enable them?
3. Do you support "WAYFless" access, that is, access that does not require a user to identify where they are from in order to reach his or her local authentication system?
4. Do you support direct Shibboleth-authenticated links to resources?
5. Who should libraries contact if they want to set up Shibboleth access to your site or if they have questions or problems?
We appreciate your willingness to help us in this effort.
David Kennedy, Duke University
Adam Chandler, Cornell University
Andy Ingham, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Jonathan Lavigne, Stanford University
Kent Percival, University of Guelph
Joy Veronneau, Cornell University
Jason Zavar, OCLC
Fred Zhang, Michigan State University
Foster Zhang, Johns Hopkins University
[please send response email to ]
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David Kennedy
Systems Programmer
Perkins Library, Duke University
(919) 613-6831
- OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, David Kennedy, 07/09/2009
- RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, Zavar,Jason, 07/17/2009
- Re: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, David Kennedy, 07/17/2009
- RE: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, Zavar,Jason, 07/20/2009
- Re: [InC-Lib-Vendor] RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, David Kennedy, 07/17/2009
- RE: OCLC and InCommon Library Services Collaboration, Zavar,Jason, 07/17/2009
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