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- From: David Langenberg <>
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- Subject: Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse
- Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:48:04 -0600
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Eric Goodman <> wrote:
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David Langenberg
> The above process is exactly what UChicago has submitted to our auditors
> for InCommon Silver. Though we offer delivery of the secret over SMS
> in addition to email.
Thanks, and yes for purposes of this question, I’d think email, SMS and snail mail are roughly equivalent.
We also discussed whether calling a pre-registered phone number directly and talking to the individual would count, and similarly if the incoming caller ID number matching a pre-registered number would suffice (i.e., if I call from my registered number and say “give me a temporary password”, could the help desk just do so based on having validated your registered phone number?)
Calling a pre-registered number & having an automated robot give the secret IMO would be ok. Having the individual call from a pre-registered number, that'd only work IMO if they're calling an automated system. Calling the help-desk to get the secret is not, in my opinion ok. Doing so invalidates the secret as once the help-desk person can see the secret it's no longer secret. Allowing such a practice would effectively give each help-desk person the ability to take-over any Silver'd individual's account just by initiating a password reset + leveraging the admin account management screens.
In our system if IT Security locks a silver user for compromised credentials, the individual does have to call the help-desk to get the appropriate re-training (don't give password to phishers), however, all the helpdesk can do at that point is push a button which will transmit the secret to the pre-registered addresses of record.
Dave
David Langenberg
Identity & Access Management
The University of Chicago
- [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, Eric Goodman, 08/07/2013
- Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, David Langenberg, 08/07/2013
- RE: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, Eric Goodman, 08/07/2013
- Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, David Langenberg, 08/07/2013
- RE: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, Jones, Mark B, 08/08/2013
- Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, David Langenberg, 08/08/2013
- RE: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, Eric Goodman, 08/07/2013
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- Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, Joe St Sauver, 08/07/2013
- Re: [Assurance] Password reset process: Flogging the dead horse, David Langenberg, 08/07/2013
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