assurance - Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements
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- From: "Michael R. Gettes" <>
- To: "<>" <>
- Subject: Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:47:34 +0000
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We are InCommon. We should be embracing InCommon LoA.
/mrg
On Nov 29, 2012, at 23:00, "Jones, Mark B"
<>
wrote:
> So it sounds like you have determined that NIST LoA 2 / Silver is not
> sufficient, but you seem reluctant to fully embrace LoA 3.
>
> The risk assessment seems to closely follow NIST guidance. Why not embrace
> LoA 3 as defined by 800-63?
>
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> Subject: Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements
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>> The risk assessment concludes that the "Federation Manager is a
>> moderate-impact system" and it references the "Potential Impact
>> Categories for Authentication Errors" table from OMB M-04-04, but does
>> not say which LoA was identified. It looks to me that
>> "moderate-impact" could land it in LoA 2 or LoA 3 depending on which
>> risk categories earned the system as a whole the moderate-impact
>> designation. Did a "required LoA" result from this risk assessment?
>
> Thanks for reading through this, Mark. There are probably as many
> interpretations of the risk assessment as there are readers. That said,
> focus for a moment on the first row in the table where the impact level is
> "equal to the impact level of the IdP's highest assurance profile." In
> other words, the entire trust fabric of the Federation depends on the
> integrity of the IdP signing certificates in metadata. Doesn't matter how
> much effort participants put into their IdP deployments, if a bad guy can
> impersonate one of your site admins, it's game over.
>
> I conclude from that simple analysis that we not only need two-factor
> authentication but we also need other compensating controls as well, at
> least for high-risk elements in metadata (such as IdP certificates and
> endpoints).
>
> Tom
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, (continued)
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/28/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Tom Scavo, 11/28/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/28/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Tom Scavo, 11/29/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Cantor, Scott, 11/29/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/29/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Cantor, Scott, 11/29/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Tom Scavo, 11/28/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/29/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Tom Scavo, 11/29/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/29/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Michael R. Gettes, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Farmer, Jacob, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Tom Barton, 11/30/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Cantor, Scott, 11/30/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Cantor, Scott, 11/30/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/30/2012
- Re: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Cantor, Scott, 11/30/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/30/2012
- RE: [Assurance] silver, 2-factor, password requirements, Jones, Mark B, 11/28/2012
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